Wednesday, October 14, 2026

122mm Naval MRL for Amphibious Firepower: Back in Service, or Never Bothered to Dismount?

 Continuing from the previous discussion on the PLA/NORINCO approach to procurement, particularly the way a successful concept gets replicated, adapted, and squeezed for every possible application, another interesting example recently surfaced. Pun fully intended.

Two photographs circulating on the Chinese internet appear to show a pair of 122mm multiple rocket launchers still mounted aboard a PLA Army Landing Craft Medium (LCM) from the Southern Theater Command. The vessel itself resembles a downsized version of the Type 073 landing ship medium, but what immediately caught attention was not the hull. It was the rockets.

Some readers may remember the considerable online discussion back in the early 2000s when the PLAN mounted five 25-round 122mm multiple rocket launchers on the Type 053H frigate Jiujiang (Hull 516). At the time, the concept struck many observers as unusual, if not outright bizarre.

My view then was largely the same as it is today.

Four launchers carrying a total of 250 rockets sounds impressive until one starts doing the math. Unlike dedicated shore bombardment platforms, there was no rapid reload capability. A 122mm unguided rocket also lacked the accuracy needed for precision strikes, particularly from a relatively small frigate moving in open water. Against hardened defensive positions, saturation and volume of fire matter, and 250 rockets simply did not seem sufficient to justify the effort.

By comparison, the U.S. Navy's WWII-era rocket support ships were built around overwhelming volume. During amphibious operations in the Pacific, particularly Okinawa, an LSM(R) could carry roughly 480 rockets dedicated solely to supporting troops ashore. That is not fire support. That is landscaping on a military scale.

Eventually the online debates faded away. Jiujiang was decommissioned in 2017, and many observers concluded the entire naval MRL experiment had been a one-off curiosity. An interesting chapter, perhaps, but not one with a future.

Fast forward to today, and these newly surfaced images suggest otherwise.

The appearance of 122mm MRLs aboard PLA Army amphibious craft raises an interesting possibility. Perhaps the concept never died at all.

In fact, there is an equally plausible explanation: the PLA Army and the PLAN may have been experimenting with the concept simultaneously all along. While Jiujiang received most of the public attention, the Army side may have quietly continued operating its own rocket-equipped landing craft with little outside notice.

And if that is the case, there is another factor that should surprise absolutely nobody.  The PLA is famously reluctant to throw away a solution that still works.

This brings us back to the Bv206-inspired articulated tracked vehicle discussed previously. Once the PLA identifies a concept that proves useful, it tends to expand it across every imaginable role. Ambulance becomes command post. Command post becomes logistics carrier. Logistics carrier becomes something carrying a machine gun. The platform never really retires; it simply acquires another mission.

The same logic may apply here.

A rocket launcher mount already installed on a serviceable landing craft still launches rockets. The hull is still operational. The supporting logistics chain already exists. Why spend money removing a capability that still functions?

To borrow a phrase that has probably appeared on more than one procurement briefing somewhere:

"New equipment costs money. Existing equipment is already paid for."

Viewed through that lens, the continued presence of navalized 122mm MRLs aboard amphibious craft becomes far less surprising. It may not represent a revived capability at all. It may simply be a capability that never went away because nobody could come up with a compelling reason to remove it.

After all, this is the same military culture that sees a useful idea and asks, "How many different jobs can we make this thing do?"

Sometimes the answer is an articulated tracked carrier that ends up doing everything short of filing taxes.

Sometimes the answer is a rocket launcher that remains bolted to a landing craft for two decades because taking it off would require a budget request.

And if there is one lesson from watching PLA procurement over the years, it is this: Never underestimate the lifespan of a capability that is still "good enough" and already paid for.

 

Tuesday, May 16, 2017

PLAN decommission of the day: FFG516 "Jiujiang" China's only MLR fire-support frigate


Cal: 122mm
No tubes: 50 x 5 (250)
Weight: 5,000kg
Max effective range: 20km
Max range with extended range rocket: 30km
elevation: 0-60 degrees
Field/angle:+- 120 degrees.
Rate of fire: 50 rounds: 18-20 seconds.
Max change rate of elevation: 16 degrees per second.
Max change rate of direction: 16 degrees per second.










Tuesday, October 13, 2026

"Inspired by a Real-Life Event": A PLA 'Shanzhai' Tracked, Articulated All-Terrain Carrier

 

There is nothing publicly available that confirms China ever imported the famed Swedish Bandvagn 206 (Bv 206) or acquired its design directly. The Bv 206, of course, earned its reputation the old-fashioned way: by being exceptionally good at traversing snow, mud, swamps, rivers, and just about every other environment that would make a normal vehicle's driver question their life choices.
 
Back in 2010, I blogged that a Bv 206-inspired/Shanzhai/knock-off vehicle appeared at the 22nd International Medical Instruments and Equipment Exhibition and it was written by the PLA daily, see below. At the time, it was presented in an ambulance configuration, which seemed innocent enough. Fifteen years later, that humble "inspiration" has multiplied into an entire family tree of articulated tracked vehicles in military and civilian forms
 
Today, variants can be found serving as ambulances, firefighting vehicles, POL (Petroleum, Oils, and Lubricants) carriers, command posts, logistics transports, and various other support platforms designed to keep the PLA moving through snow, mud, marshes, and whatever terrain map planners decide to torment drivers with. The latest versions are also noticeably more armored and, in some cases, equipped with 12.7mm machine-gun mounts. 
 
For those who follow PLA and NORINCO procurement patterns, especially before the 2010s, none of this should come as a surprise.  The vehicle itself is almost secondary to the procurement philosophy it represents.

The PLA has a long history of observing existing concepts and proven solutions from around the world. Sometimes the result is a direct purchase. Sometimes it is an evaluation program. Sometimes it is an "inspired by a real-life event" moment. Either way, the concept gets studied, measured, tested, and judged on one simple question: does it work?

If the answer is yes, the PLA tends to extract every possible ounce of utility from it.

A vehicle designed for medical evacuation becomes a logistics carrier. The logistics carrier becomes a command post. The command post becomes a communications node. Eventually, someone looks at the platform and asks whether it can also haul fuel, carry troops, fight fires, or tow equipment. If the answer is remotely plausible, another variant appears.

The Bv 206-inspired family is a textbook example of this approach. The original idea was not simply copied; it was absorbed into the system and expanded into every role that could justify having an articulated tracked chassis.

In many ways, that is often the more interesting story. The hardware itself may be familiar, but what stands out is the PLA's habit of finding a solution that works and then squeezing every last kilometer, every last mission set, and every last procurement budget line out of it.

As the saying goes, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. In the PLA procurement world, it is also frequently the beginning of an entire vehicle family.

The new improved armor and 12.7mm variant that's showed up recently:
 



 
Old CDF post from  2010 
 

Monday, April 05, 2010

Shanzhai spirit strikes again.

The PLA's First-generation All-Terrain Tracked Ambulance that was revealed during the 22nd International Medical Instruments And Equipment Exhibition (here) -- a 山寨
knock-off Alvis Hagglunds BV206S.







New generation of PLA medical equipment on international exhibition

(Source: PLA Daily) 2010-04-06

All-terrain tracked ambulance

  At the 22nd International Medical Instruments and Equipment Exhibition, a new generation of medical equipment of the Chinese People’s Liberation Army (PLA) made a collective display on March 26 and became a highlight of the exhibition. Such categories of China-made equipment as plateau oxygen-generating equipment, information-based equipment, simulation training equipment, test equipment, NBC equipment, emergency rescue equipment and long-distance medical treatment equipment were displayed respectively at the exhibition, all-roundly showing the achievements obtained in the construction of the PLA information-based medical equipment in recent years.

  The all-terrain tracked ambulance which was displayed for the first time adopted the structure of tracked dual-car body and installed with the satellite positioning system. With such a vehicle, the frontline combat troop units (elements) can implement cross-country maneuver under such special terrain conditions as desert, marshland, tidal land and snowfield and accomplish rapid and safe transportation and on-the-way first-aid for the wounded from battlefield (disaster-stricken site).

  The “NBC” bioinstrumentation vehicle which can offer mobile and rapid bioinstrumentation technology platform to fight against sudden epidemic outbreak and anti-terrorism in peace time and carry out NBC medical rescue in war time. It can be used as a mobile lab for bioinstrumentation.

  The field operation vehicle has the function of remote medical consultation, which can link the forefront field medical agencies and rear hospitals to carry out remote expert consultation and offer diagnosis and treatment guidance for the rescue of the wounded under emergency maneuver conditions, and support the early-phase treatment and special treatment of the critically wounded from a distance by relying on the remote medical information network of the PLA.

  It’s learned that during the “Peace Mission 2009” joint military exercise, the Wenchuan earthquake relief, the Haiti earthquake relief and the UN peacekeeping missions, the employment of the new generation of military medical equipment enabled the further improvement of the medical support capability of the PLA in implementing diversified military actions.

Editor:Liu Wanyun
 
 
Photo collection over the years.
 












 

Monday, October 12, 2026

New Type 052D destroyer for the North Sea Fleet coming online.

Chinese Internet chatter claims DDG-111 will be named 哈尔滨 (Harbin), carrying forward the name of the recently retired Type 052 Harbin (112). If confirmed, it would become roughly the 36th Type 052D/052DL in PLAN service, underscoring just how rapidly the class has become the backbone of China's destroyer force. We'll know soon enough if the rumors are right.



 

Monday, April 27, 2026

Good bye DDG‑112 Harbin?

 The PLAN destroyer Harbin (DDG‑112) is widely expected to be decommissioned. Since late 2025, multiple Chinese defense commentators (link) (link) and (link) have suggested that both its name and pennant number will be reassigned to the 12th Type 055 destroyer (link) now under construction at the Dalian Shipyard. Given the pace of the PLAN’s modernization, retiring a 30‑year‑old ship when once state‑of‑the‑art is unsurprising. Its experienced crew can be reassigned to the new vessel once launched, preserving valuable operational expertise.

Harbin is the lead ship of the Type 052 Luhu‑class, the first genuinely modern guided‑missile destroyer design in PLAN service. Commissioned in 1994 and built at Jiangnan Shipyard, it displaces roughly 4,800–5,000 tons, measures 144 meters, and carries YJ‑83 anti‑ship missiles, HQ‑7 SAMs, a 100 mm main gun, Type 730 CIWS, torpedoes, and two Z‑9C helicopters. As one of only two ships in its class, it marked China’s transition from Soviet‑influenced designs to more capable, multirole destroyers.

Throughout its service life, Harbin conducted long‑range patrols, training cruises, multinational exercises, goodwill visits, and early Gulf of Aden escort missions. It played an important role in expanding the PLAN’s blue‑water experience and refining modern naval tactics, though it has seen limited major deployments in recent years.


 

 

 

Monday, August 15, 2016

Photos of the day:24th Chinese naval escort taskforce leaves for mission


 QINGDAO, Aug. 11 (ChinaMil) -- The 24th Chinese naval escort taskforce set sail from Qingdao, a port city in east China's Shandong Province, for the Gulf of Aden and waters off Somali coast on Aug. 10, 2016.

The taskforce consists of the guided-missile destroyer Harbin (Hull No. 112), the guided-missile frigate Handan (Hull No. 579) and the comprehensive supply ship Dongpinghu (Hull No. 960).

The North China Sea Fleet of the Chinese PLA Navy held a seeing-off ceremony for the taskforce at a naval port in Qingdao.









 

 

Monday, February 15, 2010

Latest "gutted" photos of the Type 052 Luhu class DDG 112 Harbin.

Funnel removed, Towed Array shielded, Electronics gone. Clearly, it is more than a standard mid-life refit.






 

Saturday, October 10, 2026

Chinese police helicopters, but make them a little more Chinese.

 Helicopters are a useful tool and, in many places, almost a requirement for modern policing. They provide a fast aerial perspective that ground officers simply cannot get. Typical missions include patrol and crime prevention, suspect pursuit, search and rescue (SAR), traffic monitoring, emergency response, and general surveillance. Fairly straightforward stuff.

When it comes to how China employs helicopters for its supposedly "civilian" People's Armed Police (PAP), however, things get turned up a notch.

Currently, the PAP operates five known helicopter squadrons. Their inventory includes the Z-20, Z-8, Mi-171and Z-9WA, all wearing the PAP's distinctive dark green color scheme. As the photos show, these aircraft are not exactly outfitted like your average police helicopter. In addition to nose-mounted FLIR systems, some examples now appear equipped with a Mast-Mounted Sight (MMS) system, the type of sensor typically associated with armed reconnaissance, target acquisition, artillery spotting, and guiding precision-guided weapons.

For most civilian police forces, an airborne unit is there to help track a fleeing suspect, locate a missing hiker, or provide overwatch during a major incident. For the PAP, the helicopter overhead may also be carrying AKD-10 air-to-ground missiles guided through that MMS.

Just another day keeping the peace and maintaining neighborhood harmony.

Because nothing says "crime deterrence" quite like the ability to engage a bicycle thief with an anti-armor missile.

PAP Aviation Organization

1st PAP Mobile Corps

  • 1st Squadron
  • 2nd Squadron
  • 3rd Squadron

2nd PAP Mobile Corps

  • 1st Squadron
  • 2nd Squadron

The result is an aviation component that often looks less like a conventional police air support unit and more like a military helicopter force wearing a police badge. That's one of the many reminders that China's definition of "civilian law enforcement" tends to be a little different from everyone else's.

 




Sunday, May 17, 2020

CCTV Capture Of The Day: Xinjing PAP 2nd Mobile Corps now has an organic heliborne SpOps

Xinjiang PAP 2nd 总队 Mobile Corp is now confirmed with an organic heliborne SpOps team.  2nd Mobile Corp Helicopter Detachment has been operating a fleet of five Z-8 helicopters for over Since 2015, attaching a small SpOps team to it seems to be a logical next step.

Xinjing PAP 1st Mobile Corp operates a similar fleet of Z-8 helicopters, it would not be a surprise if it also commands a SpOs team as well. 





 WJ = PAP


 

Saturday, July 26, 2014

Ningxia People's Armed Police (WJ) commissions its first helcopter battalion.

It has been said that the PAP might enjoy a higher funding priority than the PLA ground force,  seeing the slow but steady growth rate of PAP's organic helicopter TOE, there could be some truth to that rumor.
 
The initial elements of the  Ningxia PAP (WJ) helicopter battalion composed of  3xZ-8WJ and 2xZ-9WJ.









Saturday, July 26, 2014

PAP (WJ) Shanxi helcopter battalion (Taiyuan)

Thank you Andrew KC for this information.


A total of 12 birds are expected.







Monday, July 20, 2020

PAP Unit Of The Day: 1st PAP Mobile Corps

The 1st People Armed Police Mobile Corps is commissioned with elements of the former PLA 63rd, 81st, 114th, 117th, 120th, 128th, and 187th divisions,  HQ-ed off Shijiazhuang Hebei Province, it is arguably one of the most "police ready" PAP Corps around, as such, they can be deployed to any Chinese city within short notice and in grand scale.

Elements from the 1st PAP to a training center in Xinjiang for "anti terror" drill over "1000 KM" away