Thursday, December 29, 2005

Chinese Military will buy the NewStar 2002 light wheeled APC

After People's Armed Police, 13 major provicial police departments, UN Peace Keepers and Bangladeshi bought the NewStar 2002 light APC, the PLA is finally decided it's good enought for them too. Most likely will be use for recon and light duty roles. Its chassis and engine are based on a German designed heavy duty commerical van manufactured by a privated Chinese truck company. Recently in Haiti, the NewStar 2002's side armor was pierced by .30-06 at close range. All the NewStar 2002 are getting ballistic spalling liner install. Noted that was probably the lighter 6-ton law enforcement model in Haiti. The better protected 8-ton military version has 10mm thick armor protection in the front arc. The NewStar 2002 offers direct mine and IED protection upto 25kg level. For a starting price of $120,000, the NewStar is cheaper than add-on armor kit for the US made Hummvv. --- Timothy Yan

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Friday, December 23, 2005

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Sunday, December 04, 2005

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Thursday, November 10, 2005

Three Chinese military officers killed in terrorist bombings in Jordan

BEIJING, Nov. 10 (Xinhuanet) -- Three Chinese were killed and one wounded Wednesday evening in bomb attacks against three hotels in the Jordanian capital Amman, said a press release carried on the Website of the Chinese Foreign Ministry on Thursday.

The dead and wounded were members of a delegation from China's University of National Defense, which happened to stay at one of the three hotels, the press release said.

The Foreign Affairs Office of China's Defense Ministry identified the dead as Sun Jingbo, Zhang Kangping and Pan Wei, whowere at the age of 41, 42 and 44, respectively.

The wounded, 42-year-old Yao Liqiang, suffered from a leg fracture. Yao was under medical treatment at a military hospital and was out of danger, according to the Foreign Affairs Office.

The other members of the delegation have been transferred to one of Jordan's military bases under the escort of the Jordanian army, the office said.

Officials with the Foreign Ministry said the delegation arrived in Amman on Thursday and checked in at the Days Inn hotel.

At around 9:00 p.m. local time Thursday night, the delegation, seeing no sign of tragedy, was backing to the hotel after attending a welcoming dinner at the Chinese embassy in Jordan.

The bomb blasted on the street four to five meters outside the hotel, killing one Chinese on the spot and wounding another three.Two of the three wounded died later in hospital.

Friday, October 21, 2005

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Saturday, October 15, 2005

The new Chinese FN MAG/M240 7.62mm GPMG knock off

It looks like Norinco is really trying hard to get the Iraqi and Afghan new army/police's re-equip order. Only few things are different than the real MAG: a simpler 3-stage gas regulator, the aluminum butt stock with buildin recoil buffer and the rear sight that has a quick-detachable optics mount. They didn't even bothered to actually improve the MAG design like change to a side ejection or replace it's titling block locking bolt or reduce its ungainly weight. In fact the Norinco copy weights even heavier than the real MAG.

...Timothy Yan

Thursday, September 29, 2005

PLAN Type 62 Coastal Defense Boat

by Xinhui

A new article on China

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Friday, September 23, 2005

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Wednesday, September 14, 2005

The Chinese M4 Carbine Copy

Well, it did take long for the Chinese started to copy the American M4 design. I wonder if the Chinese going to pay royalty to Colt.......Of course NOT! When was the last time the Chinese arms industry give a crap about weapon design IP? If the price is right, maybe the US government will start buying the Chinese M4 copy for their Afghan, Iraqi and Pakistani allies. The last one will make the Indian very jealous for sure.

--- Timothy Yan

Friday, August 19, 2005

L-15 Advances

Thanks Tigershark and Chenium

L-15高级教练机部装提前交付 样机成形








Thursday, August 18, 2005

Peace Mission 2005 Orbat:

Neither Chinese nor Russian release their Order-of-battle of the exercise, here is an incomplete list of the PLA unit that will take part.


PLA 127th Mechanized Infantry Division
PLAN 1st Marine Brigade
PLA 1st Army Aviation Regiment
PLAAF 36th Bomber Division
PLAN 1st Destroyer Detachment, North Sea Fleet
PLAN 9th Destroyer Detachment, South Sea Fleet
PLAN 3rd Destroyer Detachment, East Sea Fleet
PLAN 6th Landing Ship Detachment, South Sea Fleet

Unconfirmed: PLAAF Su-30 Unit, PLAAF 15 Airborne Army Unit


Airborne Company, 76th airborne division
Special Operation Company, 55th Marine Division.
Two Tu-95MS Strategic Bombers
Four Tu-22M3 Long Range Bombers
10 plus Il-76 Transport
Su-27SM unit
Naval Unit

Hair club for men?

He is not not only the CMC Hair Club president, he is also a client.

General Liang Guang Lie meeting with his Russian counter part

Friday, July 15, 2005

PLA on course to cut 200,000 personnel

PLA on course to cut 200,000 personnel 2005-07-15 08:21:17

BEIJING,July 15 -- People's Liberation Army (PLA) is on course to cut 200,000 military personnel by the end of the year, the PLA Daily, mouthpiece of China's armed forces, reported yesterday.

The military is currently carrying out extensive restructuring reform, adding new battle units and cutting outdated ones in an effort to create combat effectiveness and intensify the force's combat command capability, the report said.

The total number of officers at headquarters and functional branches at different command levels will be cut to a new low, and some grassroots posts previously held by officers will be transferred to soldiers or civil servants.

"The readjustment and reform programme is now proceeding smoothly," Zang Guoqing, head of the army affairs department with the PLA's Headquarters of the General Staff, was quoted by the newspaper as saying.

China announced in September 2003 that it would reduce its military from 2.5 million to about 2.3 million in two years.

Zang urged all military units to strictly abide by the restructuring plan as it was an important decision made by the Central Military Commission to optimize its military structure.

"Only when the new organizational system is well-implemented can we complete the task of reducing 200,000 military staff by the end of this year," Zang said.

He said that the headquarters had inspected several military commands and found some problems.

For example, in some cases the number of staff and vehicles were much more than allowed under the new system, and Zang urged them to make changes as required.

According to a white paper on China's national defence, released by the Information Office of the State Council late last year, the cuts will mainly affect officers and those from non-combatant institutions.

Since New China was established in 1949, the PLA has reduced in size nine times, with the total number of troops cut from 6.27 million in 1951 to 2.5 million in 2003.

According to the white paper, the PLA will optimize its structure by streamlining land forces and strengthening the development of navy, air and missile forces.

(Source: China Daily)

Wednesday, July 13, 2005

The new "Chinese Foreign Legionnaires"

This is the funniest thing I had seen lately. It's obviously that the two long-noises were having fun with their new purchase of pre-1980s PLA uniforms replicas from a souvenir shop. --- Timothy Yan

Saturday, July 02, 2005

The Type 63A firing its 105mm main gun over Water

I never expected the Type 63A amphibious light tank is actually capable of fire its 105mm main gun while cruising in the water. It must has a very high efficiency recoil buffer. --- Timothy Yan

Tuesday, June 28, 2005

More Silly Chinese Military Head Gears

At least these are NOT stupid A&E stage props but they do look ghetto nevertheless. --- Timothy Yan

"We're the PLA. You will be assimilated. Your advance capitalist running-dog technologies will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile."

"I got this cheap webcam and the oversize plastic Wi-Fi headphone for $5 each at Fry's. I think those make me look cool on my helmet. Maybe they will help me get a date with the cute A&E girl below."

Monday, June 27, 2005

NewStar 2002 APC in Chinese Law Enforcement Services

The windowed high-visibility version in white color for the Chinese police service. The windowless high-protection version in camouflage color for the Chinese People's Armed Police (PAP). The PAP is a paramilitary law enforcement force that's a combination of coast guard, border patrol, national marshall service and national park ranger. --- Timothy Yan

For details on the PAP, check out The People's Armed Police article on China

Wednesday, June 22, 2005

New Chinese "Helmet Mounted Optics"

It's time for a little humors. Yes the picture is real and no that's not an actual standard PLA issue helmet. That's just a stupid stage prop by the Art and Entertainment (A&E) people in the PLA. Just think of them as the art, music, dance and liberal arts majors instead of hanging out in the liberal study departments in typical US universities, in China, they join the PLA A&E troops. They're no real soldiers for sure! The A&E troops is more like crossing between the USO show performers and propaganda cheerleaders. Nothing can beats some moral boosting show with a little political brainwashing! --- Timothy Yan

Typical A&E gals like her in the picture probably doesn't know which end the bullet comes out from a rifle.

For more silly Chinese military images go check out the Stupid PLA PR Thread in our China Forum.

Tuesday, June 21, 2005

Chinese UN Peace Keepers in Haiti

It's interesting that they have better equipment than just about any PLA units and they're only policemen. The APC they're sitting on is the NewStar 2002 painted in UN white. The US should buy that for Iraq since the whole vehicle is costing less than just the addon armor kit for Hummer and it's better protected in all sides. --- Timothy Yan

Saturday, June 18, 2005

New Magnified Red Dot Sight for the QBZ95 Rifle Family

The Aimpoint looking design actually had been around for the last few years. The new sight seems to be based on the existing 2.5 magnification submachine gun red dot sight. It was designed to allows its shooter to employs the "Bindon Aiming Concept" or better know as the "both-eyes-opening" aiming method for quick target acquisition. Glyn Bindon was the inventor of this aiming method and also the founder of American weapon optic maker Trijicon Inc. Most of the current Aimpoint and Trijicon red dot optic sights use this quick aiming method. --- Timothy Yan

Thursday, June 16, 2005

Chinese made weapons and body armors in use by the new Iraqi police and troops

The new Type 56-2 assault rifles and body armors must be from the recent 40 million USD orders placed by new Iraqi government for its police and troops. Noticing the brand new Type 56-2 rifles with its short folding stocks and cheap orange colored plastic parts. Can't complaint too much when they only paid around $100 each and got them delivered almost rightaway. --- Timothy Yan

Monday, June 13, 2005

BBQ stands for Bar-Be-Que

If you are confused about Chinese small arms designation, then, join the club. Here is an attempt by chenium

His speculation:

QBZ 95 5.8 mm asault rifle
Q qiang (gun) B buqiang (rifle) Z zidong (automatic)

QJB 95 5.8 mm squad machinegun
Q qiang (gun) J jiqiang (machinegun) B banyong (squad)

QBU 88 5.8 mm sniper rifle
Q qiang (gun) B buqiang (rifle) U (sniper)

QJY 88 5.8 mm GPMG
Q qiang (gun) J jiqiang (machinegun) Y tongyong (general purpose)

QJZ 89 12.7 mm HMG
Q qiang (gun) J jiqiang (machinegun) Z zhong (heavy)

QSZ 92 9mm/5.8mm pistol
Q qiang (gun) S shouqiang (hand gun) Z zidong (autoload)

Photo of the new Chinese 9mm submachine gun

Friday, June 10, 2005

Red Earth

Thanks Redleg for the article and identification

Here is a photo of original 152-mm Krasnopol in service with Nanjing MR, not the latest Krasnopol - M, also note the new artillery radar in the background with Type 56 152mm Howitzer

Friday, May 27, 2005

Chinese Governmant starts to Privatizes some of its Arms Industry

China Opens Some Weapons Production to Businesses

China on May 27 issued regulations granting permission for private and foreign-funded enterprises to produce certain categories of weaponry in China, state press said.

According to new regulations issued by the Commission of Science, Technology and Industry for National Defense, private and foreign-funded enterprises would be allowed to produce weapons considered “sub-systems and special auxiliary products,” the Xinhua news agency said.

However, the production and development of weapons considered to be made up of core technologies and equipment would remain tightly controlled by the state, Xinhua said.

“It means if they meet certain standards, including technological level and financial strength, private and foreign-funded companies face no policy barriers” to entering business in the first category, Liu Dongkui, a commission director, was quoted as saying.

Liu said the classification system would help to standardize the weapons development and production industry, promote moderate and orderly competition and improve the level of the national defense industry.

He said the commission would issue about 300 weapons development and production licenses in the second half of this year.

A few private businesses were among the candidates to be considered.

“But there’s no fixed link between a license and production orders. Obtaining a license does not guarantee a company production orders,” said Liu.

The regulations would take effect on June 15, the commission said.

link to the source article...


Saturday, May 21, 2005

Norinco 9mm high-power armor-piercing Parabellum

The new Norinco 9mm high-power armor-piercing Parabellum round from the recent Beijing Police Equipment Expo. If anyone has any spec on this black-tipped ammo, please let me know. --- Timothy Yan

Wednesday, May 18, 2005

The 4th FC-1/JF-17 prototype will have DSI Intake

The 4th FC-1/JF-17 prototype will have DSI or Diverterless Supersonic Inlet intakes. Comparing to the conventional intake designs, the major advantage of DSI is it reduces complexity, weight and cost while adding steath to the aircraft. The Chengdu Aircraft Company, the developer of FC-1 and J-10 multi-role fighters, had been researching DSI technology since earily 2001. --- Timothy Yan

Monday, May 16, 2005

Picture of the new Chinese Body Armor Vest

Continue coverage of the Beijing Police Equipment Expo. This is the body armor vest that the new Iraqi government ordered 20,000 recently. The displayed vest is even in desert cammo patten. Also notice a very sizable ballistic plate pocket in front. The most significant improvements are the added modular mounting webbings that are covering the front and back of the vest and the adjustable straps on the shoulders and the sides. --- Timothy Yan

Saturday, May 14, 2005

New electric-powered 35mm Grenade Launcher

Continuing the coverage of the Beijing Police Equipment Expo. A new electric-powered 35mm Grenade Launcher. It's mostly made for vehicle mounted since it need electricity for its operationg. The big cyclinder at the top rear of the receiver is the electric motor. It fires low-power 35mm grenade same as the ones use in the 35mm under-barrel grenade launcher for assault rifle. --- Timothy Yan

Wednesday, May 11, 2005

New 7.62mm Sniper Rifle and three new 12.7mm Anti-Material Rifles

Reports from the Beijing International Police and Anti-Terrorism Equipment Expo. --- Timothy Yan

7.62mm sniper rifle with floating match grade barrel and bolt-action operation.

AMR-2 12.7mm anti-material rifle with side-folding buttstock and bolt-action operation.

An unnamed semi-automatic 12.7 mm anti-material rifle with gas operation based on the assault rifle.

Another undesignated 12.7mm anti-material rifle with bolt-action operation and floating barrel.

Monday, May 09, 2005

The possible PLAAF JH-7 version with side-by-side seated cockpit

Picture from the latest issue of "Aviation World" magazine. IMHO, it's wasted of time and resources to redesigning an old design. --- Timothy Yan

Sunday, May 01, 2005

Interceptor vest shows up in China

Interceptor vest shows up in China. It appear to be a geniue Point Blank. Before all the neo-cons going to freak out, you have to read the lable first. This is a earily model and it's near its fiber expiration date, which typically 5 years from the date of manufacturing. The shop probably obtained it from an US military base surplus sale. The asking price is 3000 RMB or $361 USD for the old and near expired vest. Someone is getting ripoff and it's not the Americans.

Timothy Yan