Friday, September 19, 2008

A follow up on my Type 529 post

Type 529
perhasp previous remrcs premature.
Strange gun installation (!) Perhaps no true gun at all but watercanon for riotdispersal (greenpeace?) or firefighting. Anyone has any pics with uncovered guns???

Here is two screen capture of Type529 in service with Guangzhou MR, looks like twin 14.5mm/25mm AAA

Thursday, September 18, 2008

"Sharpening-2008" exercise stretched to cover tactics 2008-09-18

  During the on-going force-on-force exercise coded "Sharpening-2008", the multi-service and multi-arm joint trainings were stretched from the strategic level to the tactical level. In the past, multi-service and multi-arm joint trainings were all confined to the strategic level, it was very rare for joint trainings at brigade and regiment levels to cover tactical contents.

  Deputy director of the on-going exercise Xu Min is of the view that the multi-service and multi-arm joint training implies the transition from the research-centric stage to the normal test-oriented stage.

  Besides, the multi-service and multi-arm joint training is becoming more and more demanding for the commanders in terms of all-round quality. In previous ground battles, the command elements included only intelligence reconnaissance, command and control, and fire strike. Today, the commanders should know how to command airborne troops, Air Force aviations and Army aviations in joint operations. More command elements require commanders better to have command capabilities accordingly.

  It is learnt that after receiving the task of conducting this trans-regional force-on-force maneuver exercise, a mechanized infantry brigade of the Jinan Military Area Command added the contents of joint training to all levels from individual soldiers to the commanders of detachments and the leading bodies of the brigade, but with special emphasis on different subjects. For example, individual soldiers would focus on "target identification and guidance", "air-landing essentials" and "the operation of digitalized equipment for individual soldiers", the commanders of detachments would focus on the operation of communication equipment such as satellite navigation and positioning equipment and the command information system, while the leading bodies of the brigade would stress on the disposition of various services and arms in the operation, the basic theories in join operation and the use of sea chart and aviation map.

  By Fei Shiting and Yang Xihe

  (Sept 18, PLA Daily) Editor: Chen Jie

Tuesday, September 09, 2008

HQ-9 Contests For Turkey's AD Requirement

BBC Monitoring International Reports

August 11, 2008 Monday


Text of report by Turkish semi-official news agency Anatolia

[Article by Mustafa Seven: "Defence Industry Under Secretary Bayar on Air Defence Projects" -AA headline]

Ankara 10 Aug 08 (AA) -Defence Industry Under Secretary Murad Bayar said that four serious candidates had been found for the procurement of a long-range, high-altitude air defence system and that talks with these four countries were under way.

Bayar replied to the AA journalist's questions about the air defence systems that Turkey is planning to purchase.

Underscoring that there were four serious contenders for the long-range, high-altitude air defence system, Bayar said these were the United States , Russia , China and Israel .

Bayar also emphasized that they were about to begin serious development projects in the field of air defence systems. He added that half the requirement for mobile air defence systems would be met directly through tenders while the rest would be met by domestic, home-grown production.

Eight Anti-Missile Systems

Turkey is preparing to establish a comprehensive air defence umbrella to counter surrounding missile threats.

The Long-Range Regional Air Defence and Missile Defence System Project is designed to provide Turkey with regional air and missile defence against all air threats.

The project will see four batteries purchased in the first package for the Air Force with four more batteries being purchased at a later date making eight missile defence batteries in all.


Emphasizing that talks were underway with four countries including Russia for a long-range, high-altitude air defence system, Bayar said that the s-300 [NATO designation SA-10 Grumble and SA-20 Gargoyle for the extended range version] was currently in production but that this production line was going to be upgraded to the s-400 [NATO SA-21 Growler] and that Turkey was interested in the s-400.

The missiles manufactured by the United States , Russia , China and Israel are the main choices for air defence systems. However, experts agree that Russia and the United States are the main competitors in this field.

Following a bad showing in the Iraq War the United States Patriot system has been upgraded and is now effective against tactical missiles and non-missile aerial vehicles.

The Chinese seem to be experts in the area of medium altitude air defence systems.

Russia is particularly boastful of its long-range, high-altitude systems the s-300 and s-400.

Russia also says it can carry out joint production of these missiles.

Israel manufactures the Arrow system.

The four contenders for the project are Russia 's Rusoboronexport [Russian Defence Export Company] s-400, the Patriot Pac III MEADS, the Israeli Arrow and the Chinese HQ-9.

Turkish firms are expected to contribute with the production of certain sub-systems.

Two of the long-range air defence systems, which are planned to go active in 2010, are expected to be deployed in Ankara and Istanbul while the other two should be deployed according to threat assessments.

Turkey 's requirement for a long-range anti-air and anti-missile system first emerged during the United States operations against Iraq in 1991 and 2003. During those operations NATO mobilized its own assets and deployed Patriots to Turkey . Patriot systems provided security against Iraq 's Scud missiles.

Turkey first met the Patriot system during the 1991 Gulf War. Patriots were successfully used against Iraqi Scuds by both Israel and Saudi Arabia . The air defence radars used by the land-based Patriot system can detect a target up to 100 km [ 62 miles] away destroying it within 15-20 seconds. Patriots have a range of 70 km [ 45 miles].

Patriot Alternatives s-300 s-400 Arrow-2

There are two alternatives to Patriot. The first is the Russian-built s-300 system. Turkey first heard of the s-300 when the Greek Cypriots purchased it for deployment in southern Cyprus in 1997. The s-300 system has a range of 150 km [ 90 miles], can reach an altitude of 27 km and can lock onto a target and fire within 8-10 seconds.

The third option is the Israeli Arrow-2. Produced with US help the Arrow-2 has a range of 100 km and can reach an altitude of 50 km.

Defence sources say that Russia has developed the s-400 after thes-300, and that this system outperforms both the Patriot and the Arrow. The same sources say that Russia is not currently offering the s-400 for sale but add that the s-400 may be purchased during talks for the s-300. The s-400 is known as a 5th generation air defence system. Its performance is double that of the s-300 with a range of 400 km. The s-300 can fire six missiles simultaneously while the s-400 can fire 12. They can hit targets travelling at 2,800 meters a second.

Low-Altitude, Medium Range Systems

Evaluations of bids for low-altitude, medium-range air defence systems are underway.

Defence Industry Under Secretary Bayar said that the next phase for the purchase of ready-to-go low-and medium-altitude air defence systems would be calling for bids.

No High Altitude Systems In TSK Inventory

There is currently no system in the TSK [Turkish Armed Forces] inventory for long-range missile and air defence. Turkey still uses the Rapier and pedestal-mounted Stinger for short-range defence and the modernized I-HAWK for medium range defence.

How The System Works

High-altitude, long-range air defence systems are aimed at destroying long-range missile threats before they enter Turkey 's air space.

During the operation of high-altitude air-defence systems once it has been determined that enemy missiles are headed for Turkey the air defence systems and their associated batteries are alerted, also with satellite help.

Air defence systems are able to stop enemy missiles some 50-300 km away.

Source: Anatolia news agency, Ankara , in Turkish 0704 gmt 10 Aug 08

BBC Monitoring

Monday, September 08, 2008

The most detailed report on PLA’s brigade-ization and Battalion battle group reform from PLAdaily, someone should translate this…..

本报特约记者 胡伟 特约通讯员 黄建东 周林
2008-09-08 06:30:20 来源:解放军报第3版

  视点提要 党的十七大报告指出,要适应世界军事发展新趋势和我国发展新要求,调整改革军队体制编制和政策制度,逐步形成一整套既有中国特色又符合现代军队建设规律的科学的组织模式、制度安排和运作方式。南京军区某集团军历经两次编制体制调整,逐步形成了军旅营的新编制体制。他们立足这一特点,充分发挥新编制体制优势,弥补作战训练短板,促进了战斗力的攀升。(武天敏)
























Friday, September 05, 2008

Russia, China resume talks on military transport planes
16:03 | 05/ 09/ 2008

Print version

GELENDZHIK (South Russia), September 5 (RIA Novosti) - Russia will continue negotiations on a contract to deliver 34 transport planes and four aerial tankers to China earlier frozen due to a disagreement over prices, Russia's state-run arms exporter said on Friday.

"We are returning to the contract and renegotiating the price of these planes," Mikhail Zavaliy, a Rosoboronexport official told reporters at an air show in the Krasnodar Region.

According to the 2005 contract between Rosoboronexport and China's Defense Ministry, worth $1.5 billion, Russia was supposed to deliver 34 Il-76 Candid medium-range military transport aircraft and four Il-78 Midas aerial refueling tankers.

The first deliveries under the contract were due to begin in 2007, but in 2006, Uzbekistan's Tashkent Chkalov Aircraft Association, the manufacturer of the aircraft, refused to sign a production contract with Rosoboronexport at the contract price.

As a result, the agreement was delayed, and Beijing suspended negotiations on this and several other military contracts with Russia.

Since then, the Tashkent-based company has become part of Russia's United Aircraft Corporation, and the planes will now be assembled at an aircraft manufacturing plant in Ulyanovsk in central Russia, the official said.

Thursday, September 04, 2008

Take it for what it is, a starting point for debate, nothing more, nothing less.

China submits 2007 military expenditure report to UN 2008-09-04 17:57:49 Print

BEIJING, Sept. 4 (Xinhua) -- China has reported its 2007 military expenditures to the United Nations (UN), the second time it has done so since it started participating in the UN Military Budget Transparency Mechanism last year.

The report provides more information than the previous submission, including basic data of the country's military spend for the latest fiscal year. It also explained the main purpose of the expenditures, Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Jiang Yu said here at a regular news briefing.

This demonstrated again that the Chinese government attached great importance to the issue of military transparency, and actively improved mutual trust with other countries in the military field, she added.

Since last year, China has participated in the UN Military Budget Transparency Mechanism and returned to the Conventional Weapons Registration System, two major mechanism of the UN concerning military transparency.

The UN Military Budget Transparency Mechanism came into being in 1980 when the UN General Assembly approved resolution 35/142 entitled "Reduction of Military Budgets." It introduced the UN system for standardized reporting of military expenditure.

Currently, more than 110 nations have joined the system.

Monday, September 01, 2008

According to rumor, DDG 163 Nanchang, another Luda class destroy of South Sea Fleet is slotted for decommission after DDG 161. Interestingly, South Sea fleet just commissioned two new Type 054A FFG in recent months, coincidence?

Most recent photos of DD163 taken in Lushun, Dalian

Confirm, PHL03 300MM MRL is in active service.

I posted the following back in March 08, 2008:

Here is the latest orbat for PLA's last two reminding
Artillery Divisions.

While all other arty divisions have been downsized as
artillery brigades, those two Taiwan facing divisions
gained a new life to host some of PLA's latest long range rockets.

1st Arty Div, 42nd Group Army, Guangzhou Military
Region, new unit number 75230

- 25th regiment 75231
- 26th regiment 75232
- 27th regiment 75233
- 52th regiment 75234
- 209th Heavy Rocket Regiment 75235

9th Arty Div, 1st Group Army, Nanjing Military
Region, new unit number 73031

- 2rd regiment 73032
- 3nd regiment 73033
- 14th regiment 73034
- 16th regiment 73035
- 201th Heavy Rocket Regiment 73036

In today's PLAdaily, it reports:

From August 27th to August 30th, Long Rang Rockets Units Nanjing and Guangzhou MRs
were send to a Northwestern desert for a live fire drill.

来源:中国军网 发布时间: 2008-09-01 09:29:16

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